An Offal Vegetarian

Recently, I have been thinking about the ethical side of a vegetarian diet. I have several thoughts on the topic and they will likely spill over to other blog posts, but in this one, I want to revisit a thought experiment I had years ago and extend that discussion.

Four years ago I posted Proposal: Vegetarian/Vegan Offset Credits. I wanted to take an economic concept and apply it to nutrition.

The short version is that a vegetarian or vegan would most likely nutritional benefit from having an occasional animal-based meal to shore up any nutritional deficiencies. And that a typical meat-eater would benefit from taking a break from the meat and having a nutritious vegetarian meal.

An ethical vegan would be able to eat animal protein for a day and still be within their moral guidelines provided they were able to convince a fast food eater to eat vegetarian/vegan for a day. They might even prepare the meals to assure that the fast food eater stays away from animal protein.

My conclusion was:

The impact to the planet is neutral, yet both parties should be nutritionally better off. Actually, I am guessing the vegan would consume grass pastured or more humane forms of animal protein, so the ecological effect would be a net positive.

I liked the idea, but it was just a thought experiment and I’m guessing the vast majority of vegetarians and especially vegans would never entertain my credit idea because they don’t want to personally be connected with any additional animal suffering.

Then I got an offal idea.

People that are into nutrition – such as the readers of this blog – know that some of the most nutritious parts of an animal are the parts that most Americans do not eat. Organ meats and bone broth. The offal parts.

Because Americans (and I’m assuming most 1st-world Western countries) do not eat the liver, the kidney, the heart, or use the bones for soup, a lot of this food gets wasted. Some of it is traded to Asian countries, but a lot is thrown away.

If a vegetarian consumed offal, they would not be adding to the animal death count, as those animals would already be bred and killed for muscle meat. Would those calories be ethical?

Then I considered that a vegetarian diet is not a diet without animal suffering. Small animals are killed during the farming of grains and legumes – which are staples of non-meat eaters. That number is likely small, but it is not zero. So if a vegetarian could displace some of those calories with offal, would it actually result in fewer animals deaths?

Even if the idea of an offal vegetarian is awful, it would still seem more ethical for meat eaters to replace a few of their muscle-meat meals for those nutritious parts that were destined to be thrown away.

I could be wrong.

UPDATE: About an hour after posting, I wondered how much offal ends up in pet food. And once pet food and exports to Asia are tallied, how much waste is left? A lot, a little?


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Using the Power of Story for Fat Loss

In previous posts, I mentioned how this year I’ve been thinking a lot about the role of stories when it comes to fat loss and diets in general. Stories provide easy to understand compelling frameworks to follow. Stories can provide novel ways for us to view our relationship with food in ways that inspire us to take action or be more compliant.

Stories are often more persuasive than facts and good stories will have a visual component.

Every successful diet is some combination of a reduction in calories and increase in activity. CICO or Calories in Calories Out. Eat Less, Move More. This is boring. It is not inspirational. And we all know it has a high failure rate.

Most people that have tried to lose weight have attempted to go head-first on a diet in this manner and most have failed. Many have failed repeatedly. So even if we know we need to do this again, we mentally hesitate not just because it is hard and requires willpower, but because we know we likely will fail. Knowing this might be a conscious or subconscious thought, but we know it.

Most people that have tried to lose weight have tried to go head-first on a diet in this manner and most have failed. Many have failed repeatedly. So even if we know we need to do this again, we mentally hesitate not just because it is hard and requires willpower, but because we know we likely will fail. Knowing this might be a conscious or subconscious thought, but we know it.

Paleo, The Zone, and Vegetarians

Paleo is an example of a great story. In this story, we have visions of warriors walking the plains and hunting ferocious animals. We have an enemy: Modern foods. And because so many other people have discovered Paleo, we also have a tribe. A simple and compelling narrative we can follow.

The result of a Paleo diet is increased focus on nutritious foods, more activity and a reduction or elimination of processed foods. For many, this leads to a reduction in calories and an increase in fat loss. The story serves their need even if the details weren’t always true.

Meanwhile, The Zone Diet which made a splash in the late 1990s never gained the traction and excitement that we see in Paleo. The idea of a magical zone of nutrients captured our attention for a while, but making 5-6 small meals each day with the correct ratios was a chore. Although it did the same thing the Paleo Diet did, it was a worse story.

Vegetarians have an amazing and compelling story which is they can do their part to stop the suffering and slaughter of animals. Although vegetarianism isn’t a fat loss diet, it does have a high compliance rate. That story is extremely powerful.

Both Paleo and vegetarianism are visual stories. The Zone is not.

paleo desert

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The Problem With Stories

Although it is possible to adopt a simple story and use it successfully for months, years, or even longer, we live in a world where we are bombarded with conflicting information. Our stories will be challenged. That may or may not be a good thing.

Going back to this post where I told how my friend believes firmly in the Atkins Diet and carbs will also make him heavy regardless of calories. If that story falls apart for him, will it inspire him to find a new path and improve his health more or will it send him down a path where he feels even less in control with more hopelessness? In this case, I suspect the latter. So the story he believes, which isn’t completely true, is serving him well right now.

But people like us – the people that read health blogs – don’t live in bubbles. Our stories get challenged all the time. If someone successfully rattles our beliefs, our story will lose its power to inspire us. Maybe not 100%, but the seeds of doubt will have been planted and that same inspiring story will no longer be as motivating. And without an equally compelling story to move to, you very likely will find the gains you made slip away from you.

Building a Story

You may not need a story, but I’ve discovered they can be extremely motivating and powerful. They work. But we can’t lie to ourselves. Calories do count. Willpower is not unlimited. We live in a world of endless food choices, many of which have been designed by food chemists, that know you better than you know yourself.

Stories work because they provide the simple framework we can use to navigate our modern world without having to think about the details. Good stories should also be visual. A Paleo warrior hunting is more visual than a Zone dieter weighing food on a kitchen scale. Both are going to eat similar amounts of protein, yet one vision inspires and one doesn’t.

In an upcoming post, I will tell you about the story I created and how well it has worked for me so far.

The Time the Vegetarian Got Sick

Several years ago I was at a potluck and one of the dishes was a vegetable soup. A friend of mine who had become a vegetarian had the soup. She enjoyed the soup and seemed to be in good spirits and health.

Later the discussion of health and nutrition came up. She went to thank whoever brought the soup because she couldn’t eat the meat dishes. At that point, the wife of the couple that brought the soup informed her that the dish wasn’t vegetarian and they used chicken stock as the base.

Within the next 20 minutes, I saw my friend go from happy and healthy to miserable. Her stomach hurt. She was nauseous. Her skin was pale.

Then the husband of the couple that brought the soup returned from the store and was informed of what happened. He shook his head and stated that he cooked the soup with a vegetable broth. The soup was 100% vegetarian. The wife said she saw the box of chicken stock in the kitchen. He told her that was for another dish they were taking to a potluck the next day.

My friend now knew she never consumed a meat product in that meal. Yet for twenty or so minutes she believed she did. This made her sick. Legitimately sick. Everyone could see her getting ill. Once she learned she hadn’t had meat, the paleness of her skin went away, but she claimed to still feel ill. But less so. She seemed uncomfortably confused. Cognitive dissonance.

This episode demonstrated to me the power our mind can have on our body when we believe something we ate is toxic. The belief of how harmful meat is the body was so powerful to my friend that she developed symptoms from just believing she had consumed meat.

This story is not meant to poke fun at vegetarians. You can see it with people that discover they consumed wheat and believe they are gluten intolerant. Maybe they were at one point, but the symptoms don’t appear until they discover later what they ate.

People also use positive associations to feel better. Vitamins are the classic case. Take this capsule and you’ll be better. And they do feel better, right up until the day they discover most vitamins are worthless.

The takeaway lesson here is that stories on nutrition and health can be extremely powerful even when they aren’t completely true.

When I think back to times when I made the most gains in health were also times that I was exposed to a new compelling story about health. And the times when I slid the most were the times when those stories fell apart.

I have a very smart friend who does not believe in the CICO (Calories in, Calories out) model for him. For others maybe, but not for him. He KNOWS for himself that carbs are bad for him and as long he follows Atkins he will lose weight. If he doesn’t, he will gain weight. This belief has become a self-fulling prophecy. When he follows Atkins, he stops drinking, exercises and controls his meals. When he slips, he eats normal food, drinks wine and doesn’t exercise.

I don’t bother correcting his belief because, without it, he’d likely gain more weight and drink daily. It is all he has.

In my next post, I am going to discuss a nutritional belief of mine that got shattered and when it did, the weight started falling off.


Photo by Tanja Djordjevic